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Happy with this unless they can get him out of this special counsel's investigation. that just doesn't seem to be a feasible point right now. >> right. right. kaitlan, thank you for the setup. michael zelden is with me, cnn legal analyst and robert mueller's former special assistant and pamela brown, our senior white house correspondent. part of the rationale of the dowd departure, a, he didn't want to be co-counsel with joe digenova and, b, despite clicking with trump early on, the relationship is strained. remind everyone -- this was the guy on the legal team who is the point person in deali...

It convinced them the idea of an interview was a bad one. >> were the questions transmitted from team mueller to team trump from mueller to mr. dowd, who was at that point the president's lead attorney, and how? were they spoken verbally? was there ever an e-mail transmission? was it on paper at any time? >> no. this was all done verbally. the special counsel's office was willing to lay out for the president's lawyers all of these different topics. they were trying to make the point, look, here are the questions. the president's lawyers have been telling the special counsel's office that he ca...

That would leave it to the supreme court to determine whether it's constitutional to subpoena a president for his testimony. and more to the point, whether the president must comply with a subpoena. amid this comes news of another shake-up to the president's legal team. it was announced today the president's hiring veteran attorney emmitt flood who represented bill clinton during his impeachment to replace ty cobb who is retiring at the end of this month. nbc news reports the recruitment of flood sends a clear signal that the team plans to rely heavily on a legal strategy long voenged by curre...

The president's lawyers took extensive notes on that and compiled this list of questions. when they looked at it, they thought it was troubling. they thought it was incredibly detailed. it got at the president's intent. there were a lot of questions about his mindset. why is it that he really was doing certain things? there was a lot of skepticism. it convinced them the idea of an interview was a bad one. >> were the questions transmitted from team mueller to team trump from mueller to mr. dowd, who was at that point the president's lead attorney, and how? were they spoken verbally? was there ...

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