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9/11 and other terrorist attacks. then there is the health care to be made permanent for those who got sick working on the pile. remember, the epa in 2001 said it was safe to work there. i see firefighters on capitol hill, jose, dying of cancer, asking for health care to be permanent. i m told by folks in ryan s office, by folks over on the gop leadership side in the senate, it will get done in this spending bill. the question will be how exactly it s paid for. they re hammering out those details. but what jon stewart has been able to do with the media backlash i think has really pushed these guys into action. they don t want to have to go home to christmas explaining to people why first responders from 9/11 don t have their health care. luke russert on capitol hill, thank you very much. now to california, where a lake in downtown san bernardino is a new focal point for investigators trying to see if the shooters tried to hide critical evidence in the water. nbc s blake mccoy has m ....
Change and that s a ard thing. you have been real. you have been out there. again, eugene is right. we have to take the moment for what it is. this is bad, we need to be better. there is no question. it s perfect. part of that is honesty with what has been done on the leadership side and the protest side and what needs to change there as well going forward. i also don t think an elite has a right to take over this conversation. talk to people in the precincts. listen to what they want we request agree, i don t want to be pretentious here. when you talk to folks in brooklyn, ask them what they want. they want police engagement. they want the police out there. they don t want the police to stand down. they want the police to be protected.n we have to say, those of us who will do their work, we have to speak clearly and emphatically and not allow people to pollute ....
Up for obamacare? reporter: a lot of people arguing that the president should live under it, the chief justice should live under it, and there are those who are trying to recruit the secretary of health and human services to join. you re the architect of the whole program, and you won t go it into it with the i did not say that, sir, i think it s illegal [inaudible conversations] come on in, the water s fine. reporter: a lot ofize of eyes are on the democratic leadership side to see if they will actually allow their employees to go on to the exchanges or whether they will exempt them. bill: mike, thanks. we ll watch it. i mean, why just roll a computer in the office and sign on up, log in, show everybody how easy it is. martha: just like buying a book on amazon.com. bill: right. everybody that s got a computer martha: check out all the choices ....
I m putting forth. in you ve got something better come with it. if you don t get on the stick. i thought that was admirable, courageous leadership is what the women showed. amy hill, i think you would disagree with that. no. i think you re totally sexist. i think it s ridiculous this day and age to be sitting there saying a woman just because she s a woman or a man just because he s a man can do anything better. if you look at the people who have also been cited as the obstructionists in congress, those happen to be some women, too. so i think you find good people and you find bad people everywhere you go. it has nothing to do with these men had the opportunity to step up. these women chose to step up. showing negotiating skills. other women were being as obstructive as the obstructive men. some of them were. not on the leadership side. that s the point. we don t have as many women on the leadership side that could step into that point. ....
We don t have as many women on the leadership side that could step into that point. is that a good point? if there were more women actually running the show, because there really aren t, if there were would that help in the final negotiation stage of these processes? i think nancy pelosi is pretty senior. i think michele bachmann s got a pretty strong voice. if you re a person who feels that there are people in there that were sort of gumming up the works, i would say that on both sides you could point to those two women. maybe you support them, maybe you don t. they certainly were taking the more strident positions. you definitely have great women in there. but i think they re great human beings. they re great americans. i think they re great human beings, but we also have to agree if the women had not stepped up we would not be in this position. we can go back and forth you want that the guys are just as good as the women and we ....