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To have a meeting like that with putin and have a basic disagreement over who said what to whom about key issues like this is extraordinary not to have a note taker or any kind of record. >> well, you have the secretary of state, the president of the united states, and the secretary of state was undercut by the president. >> there is, of course, a -- a translator or who can reconstruct in some sense what was said from their notes. i think it was a constructive meeting. they made progress on syria. a lot of the concerns that people had that they might swing for the fences and trump might be tak...

Russia's air strikes in syria increasingly targeting u.s. backed rebels there. now a majority of americans believe our national security interests are at stake. doug and john, doug, what needs to happen in syria now? >> well, we need to much more effectively support the anti-assad rebels and we need to say you cannot operate with impunity in syria and indeed in the middle east because candidly, patti ann, we're losing. with economists had a cover of the russian and chinese leades s and that pretty accurately sums up what's happening.

Russia's air strikes in syria increasingly targeting u.s. backed rebels there. now a majority of americans believe our national security interests are at stake. doug and john, doug, what needs to happen in syria now? >> well, we need to much more effectively support the anti-assad rebels and we need to say you cannot operate with impunity in syria and indeed in the middle east because candidly, patti ann, we're losing. with economists had a cover of the russian and chinese leades s and that pretty accurately sums up what's happening.