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Leadoff panel on a busy wednesday night. phillfilphillip rucker, jill co white house reporter for the associated press. former u.s. attorney joyce vance and john heilemann, our msnbc analyst. what can you report about what may or may not happen on friday? >> you had sam giving interview after interview after interview where he was really just charging, threatening not to participate in any of the mueller subpoena requests, saying he wasn't going to show up on friday, threatening to arrest him if they wanted to. but in my conversation with him after he finished all his cable news shows, he was ...

Very embarrassed when it comes out. >> the white house, however, is dismissing nunberg's claims about any potential case against this president. >> i think he doesn't know that for sure because he's incorrect. as we've said many times before, there was no collusion with the trump campaign. anything further on what his actions are, he hasn't worked at the white house so i certainly can't speak to him or the lack of knowledge that he clearly has. >> and as the man says on tv but wait, there's more, as we mentioned just before air time tonight, his story appears to have changed again and we'll ta...

Work took so long to come out. and by that i mean another journalist said on twitter tonight, this is proof these guys can keep a secret. your friend, colleague and co-author maggie haberman said tonight, this proves they were really good at lying to us for a long time. why did this particular story, do you think, take so long to get out? >> i'm not sure. there is a lot of things that went on inside of this white house that we still don't know about, but every day we go out and we try and figure out as much as we can, what are these people telling mueller? what is mueller looking at? why is mu...

Allegations of collusion between the trump camp and russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. yet lawmakers in the tlaul of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitnessing victims of kremlin investigation. let's bring in our leadoff panel chief correspondent for "the new york times" peter baker. white house correspondent for the washington post phil ruck ker, "wall street journal" eli stokels and jeremy bash also doing double duty he's former chief of staff to both the director of the cia and the secretary of defense. and jeremy i'...

If he ultimately wanted to? >> he seems to have adopted an argument of supporters where as the head of the executive branch he can do whatever he would like in the executive branch and the department of justice in the executive branch and the fbi and if he wanted to end an investigation or begin an investigation he could do that as the president. that is a central argument towards sort of who he is in terms of mueller because mueller was looking at the question of cob instruction and whether the president did anything wrong when he asked comey to end the flynn investigation. so by putting that...