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Telling kim jong-un and stop with the media stuff. the americant president does it, but you should not try to respond, because he is better at it than you are, and something like that. >> who blinked first at least up to date? >> look, i think for the north korean perspective and having a meeting with the u.s. president is a great deal. that is what they want, and from the u.s. perspective and as president trump has brought on people like john bolton like making a whole career of not wanting to meet with anyone who slightly disagreed with him. so i think that you could see how this could have ...

Thing the adviser is saying that they have never come forward in this stuff in the past, so he is getting advice, but he does want to do this. >> ambassador, what is the win-win and say they do want to wmeet, and what is the win-win? >> well, the win-win has to be more than a meet, because that is a win for the north korean, and the win has to be north korea saying something like, yes, we will get rid of the nuclear weapon, and it is going to take more time than you have in mind, but we will do it, and get something to show their own military and their own people that they have gotten somethin...

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President, we will see what happens. >> so when you got up this morning you said saw that the he headline was kim jong-un and moon jae in had met. was this world leaders scrambling to make it happen? >> well, there is an element of the scrambling, but our president loves to have stuff fly off at different directions in different moments, and no one else does not like it, and certainly the south koreans don't liket, and we are talking about the future of the country, and so moon jae in was kind of right to sit down with the north koreans and probably to tell them, look, you have to do something...

Leakers and that, et cetera, but there are constantly the messages of the white house that they are, there's disagreement within the staff. i am not surprised by it, but i am surprised that the president is not able to sort of clamp down on it, and say guys, this is what i want to do and now get behind me, and so there are problems there, and the north koreans, they have just never seen anything like it, and of course, neither have the rest of us. and my bet is that it is going to happen, and my bett is that it is going to happen, and the president wants it to happen. >> and so the meat on the...