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fox news columnist served in bush bhows during hurricane katrina. welcome karl, nice to see you. so what do voters expect from governors and presidents particularly governors here when you have a natural disaster like this? >> well they expect governor to be in charge and to have mobilized both local governments, state government, and private institutions to mediate the aftermath and to be able to help peel get back on their feet. this is a test if you will ofen frontline leadership of a governor and also in some instances the mayor of big cities have a big role to place but governor...

And we showed made clear that's $400 billion for write off another 20 billion for extending loan repayment moratorium for another 3 months but how strong are these if legal claims start with the state. >> well state claim let's just pause it to myc a claim in federal court, you have to establish that there's some damage or harm. you can't simply say it is beginning to cost you money. and so yes this plaintiff in indiana said it is going to increase payment of state taxes and that myself going to incur damage with loan process which is is at the center of what this loan forgiveness program is a...