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>> sean: a double standard. we just had marco rubio on the program, conservatives including myself looked at this bill. we all have given it time to develop. i don't see the border security first. all of us have said this from the beginning. now i'm told -- i spoke to a number of people in washington before i came on the show tonight. the announcement tomorrow is doubling of agents, the building and completion of the fence, 700 plus miles, the technology, all of it, e-verify, entry, exit, there will be people that over stay close out those cases within 180 days. all of those things i'm told ar...

However many millions of illegal immigrants are living here now, they'll just say, i don't want to deal with that. no, that's why we're having this discussion. we actually, everybody should come to the table havand have a discussion, make it rational. but the surest way to get front page "new york times" coverage -- >> i spoke to marco rubio and he did have a plan for closing the border as a legalization process, he did take it away from dhs. he said, take it out of dhs' hands, and he had a plan for that as well. greg? >> well, i think for most americans, we're wondering, how hard can this be?...

The transparency. >> sean: a double standard. we just had marco rubio on the program, conservatives including myself looked at this bill. we all have given it time to develop. i don't see the border security first. all of us have said this from the beginning. now i'm told -- i spoke to a number of people in washington before i came on the show tonight. the announcement tomorrow is doubling of agents, the building and completion of the fence, 700 plus miles, the technology, all of it, e-verify, entry, exit, there will be people stay close out those cases within 180 days. all of those things i'm...

Before offering any steps towards citizenship. thank you so much for joining us, sir. >> thank you, uma. glad to be with you. this week by a vote of 57-43, senators rejected your proposal to delay the legalization process until the department of homeland security can certify for six months that it has effective control of our boarders. a number of your republican colleagues even voted against it. why has this been so difficult to push for bord before get ago green card? >> there's a lot of people that feel that border security is not a very important thing. and i learned from 1986, because i w...

Work in the country legally while paying taxes, et cetera, would be 10 years, at least. let me tell you what i think the stishging point will be. it does appear -- we'll have to wait to see details -- but it does appear that there is some sort of provisional card that undocumented workers can get prior to that. i think that will, to conservatives who don't want anything that looks as though people are getting to the head of the line -- a provisional card that allows you to stay legally in the u.s. regardless of whether it is a green card or u.s. citizenship -- still to them sounds like grantin...