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However many millions of illegal immigrants are living here now, they'll just say, i don't want to deal with that. no, that's why we're having this discussion. we actually, everybody should come to the table havand have a discussion, make it rational. but the surest way to get front page "new york times" coverage -- >> i spoke to marco rubio and he did have a plan for closing the border as a legalization process, he did take it away from dhs. he said, take it out of dhs' hands, and he had a plan for that as well. greg? >> well, i think for most americans, we're wondering, how hard can this be?...

However many millions of illegal immigrants are living here now, they'll just say, i don't want to deal with that. no, that's why we're having this discussion. we actually, everybody should come to the table havand have a discussion, make it rational. but the surest way to get front page "new york times" coverage -- >> i spoke to marco rubio and he did have a plan for closing the border as a legalization process, he did take it away from dhs. he said, take it out of dhs' hands, and he had a plan for that as well. greg? >> well, i think for most americans, we're wondering, how hard can this be?...