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Rules need to change. we need to clean the rolls up like in los angeles there is more than 1.2 million people on the rolls. that's more than who are old enough to actually register to vote. >> are we going to follow what the constitution says or not? i hope we get back to what the constitution says. but clearly, in a number of states they didn't follow those legislative rules. >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. >> it's the words of gop congressman steve scalise that are the most chilling to me. he is car...

States that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. that's what the united states constitution says. and i think there are a lot of people that want us to get back to what the constitution says. we should be doing, not just with elections, with a lot of other things too and there's some people that want to just ignore what the constitution says and do their own thing. that's been a debate that's been going on in this country for a long time. chris: do you -- >> why don't we get back to the kuhns tuesday, we won't -- back to the constitution. >> chris: there are people out there, there was...

Irregularitieses in all elections. i want to ask a specific question. do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? and continuing to make that charge, not having states do election reforms but specifically making this charge that the election was stolen. do you think that that hurts, undermines american democracy? >> well, chris, i've been very clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow state passed laws that governed the election for president. that's what the united states constitution says. they don't say that the states determine what th...

Anyone who covers the trump orbit that there is an expectation of investigations toward them. they'll first slam in the gears. they're less interested in the language to comply with this stuff. they understand the language of power and consequence, and that's where this committee has to show its teeth that they want to make sure people recognize, hostile witnesses recognize, that they need to comply or there will be consequences. >> thank you both for that. remember, the insurrection at the capitol was prompted by the lies. former donald trump kept pressing that the election was stolen from ...

Who choose to ignore it are putting this country in jeopardy. there just is no nicer way to put it. just yesterday, the second highest ranking republican in the house of representatives refused three times to acknowledge the simple and undeniable fact joe biden won the election. here is house minority whip steve scalise of louisiana. >> do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? >> chris, i've been clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow the state passed laws -- >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states...