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Administration over several of the policies, as well as aclu taking over the administration on the census question. thank you both for being here. leig lee, first on the raids that we're getting reporting on, what are you hearing from -- what are you hearing from migrants that you're working with about these raids? >> i think they're scared. this administration has been terrorizing immigrant communities for years and i think this is more of the same, where they're living under toxic stress. imagine being a child constantly hearing your mother may be taken away or you may be deported. imagine i...

To take action on. so yes, i think you can say that the president is looking ahead to his reelection and whether these things are real or merely rhetoric doesn't matter that much. he does view it as a useful political issue. >> lee, on the census, the aclu is leading the legal fight against the trump administration on this as well. if he announces an executive action, it's still unclear what is going to be said when he comes to the rose garden. but if executive action is announced, what is the aclu's responses? >> we'll be back in court. obviously we want to see what he does. but we'll be back...