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Not -- no good will come up of. i think he'll engage at the time he can take things back from a regular order. he'll never get a deal in regular order but we have moved along enough in regular order where people in congress can feel like they have played a role in it. >> wes moore and leigh gallagh r gallagher, stay with us. pennsylvania is where mike bloomberg is launching a new ad campaign when it comes to gun legislation. we will ask senator bob casey about his stand when he joins the table and along with former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and the philadelphia phillies. >> past and p...