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International president of the united steel workers. good to have you with us tonight. what do you make of this? >> let me say that hearing mr. spradlin talk was heart breaking because what we're ending up doing is punishing the victims of the economic collapse and running a ponzi scheme on them as well. let me give you a few facts that don't seem to make it into the debate at the moment. corporate profits last year are up 37% while taxes last year were at the lowest level since 1950. we do not have a spending problem in america. we have a revenue problem. we lost 60,000 factories during the b...

>> my best year at 20 years has been right at $70,000. right in that area. that's with the overtime because of short staffing because i can't get any help. every time i call off sick or someone else does we have to replace it with overtime. so the overtime costs are pretty high but if we had more firefighters, which now we're not allowed to collectively bargain for at staffing, sure they're going to give us -- we're going to be allowed to bargain for better, safer things to go risk our lives to save the public but i don't have anybody to run them. a new fire truck doesn't do me a lot of good i...

>> my best year at 20 years has been right at $70,000. right in that area. that's with the overtime because of short staffing because i can't get any help. every time i call off sick or someone else does we have to replace it with overtime. so the overtime costs are pretty high but if we had more firefighters, which now we're not allowed to collectively bargain for at staffing, sure they're going to give us -- we're going to be allowed to bargain for better, safer things to go risk our lives to save the public but i don't have anybody to run them. a new fire truck doesn't do me a lot of good i...