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between. a mixture of walls, fences, and technology. the palestinians hated it from the start. it led to clashes and it was built. >> translator: the best way to describe it as apartheid. >> some people from the world to say i am building an apartheid wall. well, it's not apartheid, and i am very proud that i saved the lives of so many people. >> shannon: he thinks the idea could work in the u.s., too. >> the first thing that the united states has to do is to talk about the security concept. what they want to achieve. it's not only to construct the barrier, it is all that gives yearly concepts. >> shannon: just as in israel, tirza says any barriers in the u.s. will need to be crafted to work alongside the natural topography in order to be effective. >> the area like the gaza strip, so there are more channels in san diego than in gaza. >> shannon: despite his successes in lessening bloodshed
successes in lessening bloodshed in the region, tirza has taken criticism from the right, who says his wall granted more land to the palestinians, and from the left who says he has divided society. nevertheless... >> i'm very proud of it. >> shannon: no doubt, border security will come up in president trump's state of the union address next tuesday. north dakota congressman kevin kramer announced that he plans to bring the owner of a construction company that builds one the prototypes for the wall as his guest to next week's address. according to the latest box was poll, 55% oppose building a wall against the u.s. national border. 40% say they do favorite. tonight, a hebrew language newspaper and israel is reporting that former secretary of state john kerry met with a close confidant of palestinian president mahmoud abbas in london and at that meeting, he allegedly advised him to tell palestinian president to play hardball with president donald trump. kerry saying that he should stay