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Do-- >> that might even be too much for joe biden to pull off at this point. dee? my opinion is biden is strong with black persons, especially black women. he has about over a third of them in his camp right now. but this kamala harris shot, i think black women are shopping around now and looking at her looking at warren. joe can't survive without strong black support. wouldn't you agree? a >> i do agree with that assessment. kamala harris came out the gate swinging. that's what she was supposed to do. she's running for president, not for pta president. s let me just say this. jp did what he d...

He was against it because the u.s. department of education forced it. unfortunately, joe, the u.s. department of education didn't't exist when it was put into effect. >> dee, why he didn't say that? kamala, how dare you? the first african american president picked me to be on the ticket. if he thought i was racist, he wouldn't have put me there.>> hold on. let dee respond. >> the first thing is, she didn't call him a racist. she asked him about his actionse because she was very concerned about his position on bussing back then. let me be very clear. joe biden did make that decision. he did say...

>> i mean -- >> mandatory abortions for every women impregnated by a conservative. something has to do it for you ajoe. >> he's transitioned on china and transitioned on the hyde amendment. i don't think he will transition on his gender. dee, i'll let you respond to the v.p. why hasn't barack obama or at least through surrogates come out more strongly? >> i think i they have. vice president biden said he didn't want to get obama involved on his own merit. president obama has said that he served well on numerous occasions. you talked about identity politics. that's all the republican dos operat...