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>> doesn't make any sense. >> yeah. he said he was against bussing all the time. he was against it because the u.s. department of education forced it. unfortunately, joe, the u.s. department of education didn't exist when it was put into effect. >> dee, why he didn't say that? kamala, how dare you? the first african american president picked me to be on the ticket. if he didn't do it, he wouldn't have put me there. >> he -- >> hold on. let dee respond. >> the first thing is, she didn't call him a racist. she asked him about his actions. because she was very concerned about his position on buss...

May be the only thing you have left or promise this. >> i mean -- >> mandatory abortions for every women impregnated by a conservative. something has to do it for you, joe. >> he's transitioned on china and transitioned on the hyde amendment. i don't think he will transition on his gender. dee, i'll let you respond to the v.p. why hasn't barack obama or at least through surrogates come out more strongly? >> i think i they have. vice president biden said he didn't want to get obama involved on his own merit. president obama has said that he served well on numerous

That. >> and here's joe biden's correction. >> we know that 60 seconds on a a campaign debate can't do a thing to a lifetime of civil rights. >> david, thanks. joining me now, tom and dee are here. all right. tom, the race is tightening at the top. it's clear the exchange with kamala and biden, especially because it was so racially tinged paid off for her in the polls that will signal to the they are democrats, you have to take those types of risks and go hard at the frontrunner. the problem is joe can't counter very well. he looked weak. stammering. he waved the white flag and said

Little, if anything, he can do -- >> that might even be too much for joe biden to pull off at this point. dee? my opinion is biden is strong with black persons, especially black women. he has about over a third of them in his camp right now. but this kamala harris shot, i think black women are shopping around now and looking at her, looking at warren. joe can't survive without strong black support. wouldn't you agree? >> i do agree with that assessment. kamala harris came out the gate swinging. that's what she was supposed to do. she's running for president, not for pta president. let me just ...

>> we know that 60 seconds on a a campaign debate can't do a thing to a lifetime of civil rights. >> david, thanks. joining me now, tom and dee are here. all right. tom, the race is tightening at the top. it's clear the exchange with kamala and biden, especially because it was so racially tinged paid off for her in the polls that will signal to the they are democrats, you have to take those types of risks and go hard at the frontrunner. the problem is joe can't counter very well. he looked weak. he was stammering. he waved the white flag and said here, my time is up. it was ironic.