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Did and dealt with young people. he was a dedicated citizen and very none any. we had some discussions about drivering. a lot of different things. >> so we really guide become really good friends. >> well, let's just say a bit combative conversation. they would go back and north and they ended the conversation when they were done, general powell would say to him, are we good? >> and he would say yes, general, we are good. >> i am rebinded and we talked about it yesterday after he learned of his passing that the heated conversation between you and general powell regarding troops and bosnia. i t...

There has to be consequences to subpoenas issued by congress not being enforced and being ignored. and i wonder if congress is finally going to realize that and steve bannon is going to be their example? >> you know, he should be. you look at this and it's absolutely ridiculous that congress is unwilling to enforce their power and to use their power and bring in steve bannon and if the capitol police have to bring him in, i'm for it at this stage in the game. we have to have some heft behind these congressional subpoenas and we have to treat what happened on january 6th with due seriousness. j...

Bannon is going to be their example? >> he should be. you look at this and it's ridiculous that congress unwilling to enforce their power and to use their power and bring in steve bannon and capitol police have to bring him in? i am for it at this stage in the game. we have to treat what happened on january 6th with due seriousness. do you think this will be the moment that pushes congressional leaders to the edge and they say okay, stop the shenanigans and stop trying to tie up in legal, we are going to actually use our power and force steve bannon to come in. >> well, they certainly should. ...

Been becoming more, you know, joe manchin's ugly vision and as if the progressives and manchin in each and their way trying to destroy the public. maybe this is essential to get to a compromise, but personally i think the country would be better served by some stronger leadership than the president, this is his agenda. he needs to force consensus within the democratic caucus. it has been battled out for months now. this is the period where the president's poll rating has been plummeting. part of that is people don't want to see this vision of washington. you may love it. you used to work here....

Hear the word. but, i'm sorry, this is another form of brinkmanship. if this process and -- news articles and statements have become more and more vitriolic, joe manchin's ugly visions, as if the progressives each in their own way are trying to destroy the republic. maybe it's essential to get to a compromise, but personally, i think the country would be better served by some stronger leadership from the president. this is his agenda, and he needs to forge consensus within the democratic caucus. and it's just been battled out now for months, and i think this is why the president's poll ratings...