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That kind of language but that's not the kind of clarion call clarity that i think people were hoping for from this hearing. and i'm struck, brian, that this is really the third time democrats have fallen into this trap of regarding mueller as sort of a messiah figure who was going to provide some sort of unifying, overarching indictment of, you know, numerous people across the trump campaign and the trump white house for their actions in the 2016 campaign. that didn't happen. then the report came out and it didn't really have the coup de grace against the president that would inexorably lead ...

Members, the democratic house members, who thought, well, this will be it. we'll be able to get mueller on the record here and that will really cause many people in the american public to get the message and, again, a bit of a letdown today. so i think there has to be some disappointment in the democratic ranks on the hill tonight. >> so josh, that's interesting. they might have put too many hopes and dreams in lieu of a work product into robert mueller. any talk that jerry nadler isn't perhaps up to the job? >> i don't think so. i mean, i don't think it's simply nadler, although i think if yo...

Clarity that i think people were hoping for from this hearing. and i'm struck, brian, that this is really the third time democrats have fallen into this trap of regarding mueller as sort of a messiah figure who was going to provide some sort of unifying, overarching indictment of, you know, numerous people across the trump campaign and the trump white house for their actions in the 2016 campaign. that didn't happen. then the report came out and it didn't really have the coup de grace against the president that would inexorably lead to impeachment. a lot of damaging information but no direct ac...