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Because they're going to nominate people that are far to the right of the mainstream and that is something democrats can take advantage of as long as they don't do a proverbial, we're going to screw this up by, you know, leading with let's defund the police or something like that that is frankly just not true but something that we have given them on a silver platter. >> so mike barnicle, obviously the president made his campaign visit to boost gavin newsom in california, vice president kamala harris was there, what do you suspect as you talk to people around the white house, this result, and a...

Hate him donald trump put the vaccine in place. jillian: every time we talk about this that moment where kamala harris at the time was not vice president set of donald trump tells me to take the vaccine i won't take the vaccine. now you are having the administration push this vaccine so hard and it should but it feels a little hypocritical. todd: a little, she said don't do it. there is this other hypocrisy streaming through the democratic party about defunding the police. here is president biden on that topic last night. >> president biden: police should be held accountable, fired for not doi...

Things to fry. the game changed when republicans started to say, oh, let's defund obama care. the government shutdown may be temporary, but it looks like the see quester is here to stay. joining us now from washington is "huffington post" white house correspondent sam stein. sam, thanks for being here. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> i think it's very easy to paper over the sequester because the shutdown of the government is so much more dramatic, but the reality is democrats gave a lot when they agreed to this austerity level of funding. do democrats see it that way, that they've given...

Keep the government open and they want to defund obama care or certainly delay its implementation. and ted cruz has been leading the charge to do just that. >> the polls show in fact that americans don't want to shut down the government. they don't think that getting rid of obama care is worth a government shutdown. every single poll has shown that. >> and that's exactly why house republicans have voted to fund the government, to keep the government open and to defund obama care and keith is laughing, but his former boss, president clinton, has acknowledged that there are flaws in obama care a...

Lee or ted cruz in the senate, marco rubio is also in the corner of let's defund completely, let's take the government potentially to the brink of shutdown to do so. they feel that this is the last chance to put the brakes on a law that they feel is fundamentally destructive. and so they're willing to do whatever it takes in order to do that. i think that there are some other folks who don't think that there is no -- there are other mechanisms, jamie, that you'll hear from more clear headed republicans, i think, in the house in the senate that they can delay as opposed to really draw this hard...