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>> are you making fun of my irish family? >> yes, i am. because i have irish in my family because i can do that, but my point is you can become an american, anyone, anywhere in the world from any country can become an american. why do we self-segregate? let's focus on what really matters. did not make us color behind, okay? got gave us the ability to see in color. i look at whites, i look at blacks, i look at hispanics, i don't care! that's the point we need to get to. it's not so much as i'm a black american. i don't care to say that. i'm black and i'm proud. i was raised in the house with ja...

With lax gun control legislation. >>chris: i will bring you into another discussion but there was talk this week we my see some fallout from boston in terms of immigration reform and some of the leading, some leading conservatives in congress, including charles grassley, the number -- top written on the senate jack japan said, let's slow down on immigration reform. let's focus on who we let into this country and possible security threats. do you think that is legitimate? >> the british phrase they use at terrorist attack is "keep calm carry on," that could apply to this legislation. look, we d...

The above approach. we need to model and re-do better our campaign mechanics. we need to reach out better to latinos. we need to soften our tone on social issues. but there is an interesting divide going on between the bobby jindals and the chris christie of the world, the republican governors, versus some of the republican insiders who might be eyeing the white house. and bobby jindal's argument was, look, we need to get away from the divisive budget battles that are occurring in washington, d.c. they're not doing us any good. let's focus on what's happening in the states, let's focus on the ...

Faces with 50 choices we could do with our money. go out to lunch, the truth is if we just get these big wins in order, we don't have to worry about the little things. so our willpower is limited. let's focus in on the big things this life, like spending time with our family, being better at work and not worry being the little things. >> brian: you talk about something like automatic withdrawals. for example, into roth iras, 401(k)s, set the percentage and forget about it. >> exactly. that's worth more than any budget you could ever do. when that money comes and you get paid through your paych...

So our argument has been about, let's do real evaluations. let's fix the broken system of evaluations. let's focus on what have i taught and what can kids learned? i think the issue really has become is learning reduced to a test score? either for a child or for a child's teacher? and what we need to do is focus on lots of different ways to assess learning. but evaluation? of course we have to have evaluation, just like we have to have, you know, just like we have to have preparation. just like we have to have resources for teachers to really be able to engage with kids. >> do you think if the...