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Gotcha moment whenever i would do a show or say something because it became fodder out of washington. let's go steele, let's go after him. so it made it very difficult. so a lot of folks got nervous. the communications department and others around the city were saying, well, you know, i don't know. bill maher's another buddy of mine. i'd love to do the bill maher show. i don't know if you -- i've been doing bill maher since it was "politically incorrect." so i have a long relationship with my buddy bill. >> but do you regret having made the -- >> i do. because i believe and i still do believe ...

Was here getting ready to do my show and you were at another camera in the studio and i just gestured at you like come on. and you were like, i'd love, to they won't let me. and all this time i've been wanting to say who's they? you're chairman. >> oh, yeah, right. like that -- >> oh, yeah, right. >> oh, yeah, that and a cup of coffee, right? >> who do you answer to? donors? >> you answer to -- believe it or not, you answer to a lot of people, number one. but i think in this regard i think there was this -- just this sense of, you know, there was a lot of noise and you don't want to create mor...