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So i have a long relationship with my buddy bill. >> but do you regret having made the -- >> i do. because i believe and i still do believe that the chairman of the party has a unique opportunity and responsibility to take that message someplace it's never been before. people will listen. they will pay attention. and if you do not engage, if i don't sit down and have an intellectual, stimulating debate with someone like you that says you know, we are philosophically about as apart as you can get, but the goal's got to be let's find where there's that common ground, there's got to be a theme po...

Gotcha moment whenever i would do a show or say something because it became fodder out of washington. let's go steele, let's go after him. so it made it very difficult. so a lot of folks got nervous. the communications department and others around the city were saying, well, you know, i don't know. bill maher's another buddy of mine. i'd love to do the bill maher show. i don't know if you -- i've been doing bill maher since it was "politically incorrect." so i have a long relationship with my buddy bill. >> but do you regret having made the -- >> i do. because i believe and i still do believe ...