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In the state of the union, you say, i'm putting you on notice, schools, if you don't do that, e you're going to see your funding drop. has there been any change? >> you're right. our first step was to make sure we were providing the aid and grant that were needed so the burden wasn't all falling on kids. we took money out of the pell gram. we said let's cut out the middle men. let's use that to expand the assistance we're providing the kids. so as a consequence the average cost has not gone up as fast as tuition has gone up. but that's not a sustainable model. we're going have to keep tuition ...

Schools is you've got to continue to keep the high standards, but we're still going to measure growth. you're not going have a chance do really well with white kids and the black and hispanic kids but you average it out and meet something. we're still going to desegregate that. moving toward the growth model and measuring how a school is doing gives every school the opportunity to improve without labeling them as failures and then not giving them the resources that they need to actually step up. >> let's talk about college tuition. i know you've done a lot. you talk a lot about what to do on t...

O your game. so what i've proposed moving forward, building off of the race to the top, let's hire new math and science teachers who are trained in math and science without being thrown in the classroom without the preparation they need. focus on early childhood education. part of our race to the top is let's figure out what are the dropout factories out there. some schools are really underperforming. let's transform those schools. and in all these situations what we have to do is combine creativity and evidence-based approaches. so let's not use ideology. let's figure out what works and combi...

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