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Was that trump used to get loans and recorded on taxes. and i think that the really important thing here is that they are pursuing criminal charges against trump. they need to prove intent. there is more in benders possession possibly and indefinitely in his knowledge. about whether or not trump directed him to do things. they go beyond just the financial documents themselves. if bender is a material witness who can show that donald trump was told, he might be breaking the law, and went ahead and did it anyway and directed them to do that to keep their jobs, that is an important moment in this...

Crowd size was bigger. and we saw a play out that this murderous mob came to do violent elements, extremist elements, malicious crowd roars, and the assorted list goes on. so at the end, what we find out through this for certain is that the people on fox news they don't believe a word of what they say, of what they preach, what they sell for billions of dollars. the cynicism is completely exposed. i suppose, there are some people in the country that look at the money in the law and say, goodness, it's a miracle. at the end of the day this stuff speaks for itself. >> steve, one thing i am struc...

Get the details. but it does feel like one of those things where we could have, as rioters, drawing the blank. >> i think that the thing we couldn't have known is that we would get to see all of this material. >> right. >> so it's one thing to know that mark meadows is texting with the rally organizers. and the rally organizer says to him, we need direction from you. it's getting out of hand. thus confirming that the people organizing the rally, which turned into violence, we're taking their direction from the white house. and we all thought that the white house was directing all of this, but ...

Connecticut and in newtown? this grim anniversary day once every year. >> i become many very close with the families. i tried to reach out the night before. i know a lot of them would like to stay quiet on the 14th. i would tell, you for me, it doesn't get easier. it doesn't get easier. in part because every year that passes without action is another year that i know a whole new generation of kids are going to face this reality. and you don't have to have a shooting at your school to be affected. my two kids, seventh grader and a fourth grade, or go through active shooter drills. what no one e...

We are at this precipice right now. and all we have is the rule of law. the institutions, to guard us from this abyss. >> neil katyal, animal brian, thank you very much for starting us off tonight, really appreciate. it >> thank you. >> thank you. and coming up, while republicans are texting mark meadows during the attack on the capitol. congressman jason crow was speaking about what weapon he might be able to use to protect his colleagues if the attackers entered the house of chamber. congressman jason crow, will join us next. ll join us next ment this pure... ...demands a lotion this pure. n...