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Joining us now with his reaction is the uncle of sean smith, michael ingmyer. thank you for joining us this morning. >> good morning. i'm glad that mrs. clinton had an indian food, wine and beer party. too bad my nephew and ambassador stevens, know, couldn't show up. but, you know. let's talk today. what do you want to know? >> well, just to that sound bite that we just heard. how does it feel to know that she told her family that your nephew died in an al qaeda-like terrorist attack but then she told your family that he died in a protest gone wrong because of a video? >> that's consistent to ...

Religion. >> black and white, smoking gun i win you lose. >> you can revise history all want to. the fact of the matter is our founders were not afraid to acknowledge god and they did that in our founding documents. the declaration of independence says we are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights. they weren't afraid to acknowledge god, and they did. >> throughout our history, our nas has always been a nation that blessed god. >> lincoln and jefferson were not religious. >> and neither was thomas payne. patrick henry was. they got together and put together a secular constitution that ...

Hour work week, they gave us weekends, and safer workplace environment, and as the unions-- >> well, that was a long time ago, a while back. >> that's true, but let's talk today. the fact that we had union busting in the the 60's and in the 80's and now right to work states. we've actually seen real wages decline, except for unionized jobs. the unions are the only thing keeping us from complete economic class, in that our middle class is gone. >> brenda: toby, many argue at that the unions have been why we're in so much debt, with higher pensions and the rest. what do you think this will do? >...