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And we've seen this time and time again. what if there is a tape? if i were in vegas right now, i would put my money on the odds that there were. like the idea that someone who would call a woman a dog, call maxine waters a woman of low intelligence, that he would make statements so cavalier but very -- in a sense of arrogance and entitlement. the idea that he wouldn't is very unlikely. so the question is not whether he said it. it's really not about the polls. it's about the people. who are we as a country? who are we as americans? who are we as believers? and what are we going to do about it...

Organized team efforts to prey on kids, boys and girls. some in the hospital or in diapers. and the church, godless in its apparent indifference in some cases, unholy in its efforts to avoid exposing these bad men to authorities and others. it needs to stop. everybody says that but you know what they don't say or don't realize? you need to care about it for it to stop. because for all the reporting and the movie, "spotlight" and the outrage, calls for change and even action by pope francis, right now the majority of these men named today will not be punished. can you believe that? why? because...

Victims of sexual assault most often take time to come forward. if they have the will to do it at all. with kids? many of them are too young to even fully understand what happened to them, and they've been lied to by these animals to believe nothing bad happened. by the time they figure it out, the law may exclude them. what is that law telling them? too bad, you didn't come forward fast enough, you missed your chance for justice. look, we know organizations, even religious ones, will protect themselves even fit means they're going to victimize children in the process. that's where the law com...

To classified information. to me it's the bigger issue in what this symbolizes -- >> so let's look at that. if he president wanted to pull mueller's security clearance, how easy co-do it? >> well, pretty easy. >> there's supposedly a process. you just saw him ignore it with you guys. >> the president does have the authority to exercise here if he so chooses. now, it's unprecedented for a president so reach down and take such an action on an individual just because he doesn't like what he says, and that's really what this is all about. and i just think again, it's not about retired formers like...

I'm perhaps exaggerating a little bit here but this is bigger than just -- much bigger than revoking john brennan's eligibility or possibly mine or the others. >> when you look at the list, what i'm calling the unwanted list of ten people, it's all about somebody who has some connection to the probe that the president clearly hates. even though his current intel people are saying it's an important probe, it needs to go forward, we need facts and we need to understand what the russians did and who helped them. putting that to the side, do you believe that that would be the extent of it? he only...