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Anything the public may have seen on the internet. these are some of the pictures that are out there. on the internet. o of parnas and his associate igor frum within president trump and rudy giuliani. back with us david gergen jeffrey toobin kirsten powers and david geshen. a question how significant is this. >> it obviously depends what's in the documents. what seems to be going on here is that one of the two defendants, lev, looks to be making a deal, looks to be trying. >> trying. >> trying to make a deal where he either gets lesser charges or no charges. that seems unlikely now he's been i...

>> you can always add articles of impeachment. you can keep on doing the process. nothing says you have to be finished once you vote on certain articles you can't vote on others coming up. but democrats have to decide to do that. kirsten powers to you, lev parnasen a igor fruman thoos these guys are characters. are rudy giuliani and the president pictures. but the lawyer says he has information that devin nunes is tide up in in as well. how do you see this playing out? >> well, i mean, i think it's like what jeffrey said it dpentds on what they have and can deliver. they also claim they at a d...

A question how significant is this. >> it obviously depends what's in the documents. what seems to be going on here is that one of the two defendants, lev, looks to be making a deal, looks to be trying. >> trying. >> trying to make a deal where he either gets lesser charges or no charges. that seems unlikely now he's been indicted and potentially turning into a witness. would he be a witness against rudy giuliani? would he have incriminating material? we don't know about. but that seems to be the back drop to what's going on. but in fairness to giuliani we need to -- we don't know what's in th...

Parnasen a igor fruman thoos these guys are characters. are rudy giuliani and the president pictures. but the lawyer says he has information that devin nunes is tide up in in as well. how do you see this playing out? >> well, i mean, i think it's like what jeffrey said it dpentds on what they have and can deliver. they also claim they at a dinner with the president had told him -- they were the ones really driving the smear campaign against marie yovanovitch and they had told him she was working against his interests. so, i mean, maybe if they did in fact have recordings of something that coul...