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Are policy oriented. if you can't get this one done, what's the chance of the other things? >> slim to none, i would say, is the chance of getting those other things done if you cannot get this. you are not going to be able to find ten senators who are willing to leave the herd, as it were, and vote with the democrats. like manchin and to to a lesser degree kyrsten sinema, their argument is that the filibuster encourages bipartisan cooperation because you have to get these ten republicans to help break a filibuster. but if you don't give them an incentive to break ranks, then if you are able t...

49 and 50 on whatever is under discussion. but i really don't see how manchin can avoid it on this front with this -- with this investigation, with this commission. there's for democracy and there's not. if manchin cannot find those ten patriots that he hopes to find, then is he willing to be the reason why this commission doesn't move forward? i don't know if he is. >> so this is interesting, renee, because hayes talks about kyrsten sinema. i want to read you an article from politico. it says asked if the biden administration should keep talking to republicans about a bipartisan infrastructur...