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You for that. >> i think there is that risk, but i see it more as a leverage point. i mean, the wall and chain migration. i think he's trying to push as far as he can and see what he pulls back on. as you pointed out, it could be a fence or some other type of border security. he is having these conversations privately. he's saying some type of border security with protections for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. i think it's potential. you still have the bannon wing of the party that you're going to have to fight. this is not going to be an easy thing, but certainly democrats really want to get this done. a...

Help with more serious crimes. and as you said, if i were kushner or bannon, i wouldn't be able to sleep tonight. >> the papers filed today are quite narrow and quite limited, but they give us a few clues. there's references to to senior transition officials and very senior transition officials that flynn had discussions with as he was having these conversations with ambassador kislyak. that is going to help the prosecutors formulate their next series of moves and this leverage point that your source talked to you about is one that prosecutors use all the time. they've got -- this is a -- this...

>> some might look at michael flynn lying to the fbi and they say, well, that could have been to conceal the fact he had violated the logan act. he was part of the transition. he was not yet part of an administration. he was meddling in foreign affairs by having these phone calls. but that's a really kind of antiquated law. it's never been -- >> it's never been charged. >> it's never been used. so what do you think of that argument? >> well, look, i think you don't necessarily need to charge anybody with this -- with violating this. it might not even be a constitutional -- might not even be a ...

Involving himself in foreign policy before he was supposed to really be in a position to do that. but now it makes you wonder when you look at that, it's not necessarily about the logan act, which it seems would be difficult to bring charges, it's not something that's really been done and seems harder to believe this isn't about something much larger and involving more people, especially when you look at the words in the charging -- >> right. exactly. i think that's exactly where i go. when i look at the document here. this is not about the logan act. they're not going to stop there. that's no...

Is where the tie-in with trump comes in, with the greater russian investigation. >> with regard to the turkey story, and someone who is familiar with this and while it is extraordinary to offer someone $15 million to force somebody to be kidnap and bring him back. and tur ski a nato ally and asking for this person to come back to the united states, and it is not out of the realm of possibility for us to return that person and give flynn the benefit of the doubt, and maybe he was working to extradite the person to turkey and not kidnap him, and not as exciting as the kidnapping. >> it is a big ...