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Returning to the steel dossiers. spin a new conspiracy theory involving bruce orr and his wife nelly who one time worked for people involved in the steel dossier. just amazing how each of these kind of favorite lines of donald trump's, benghazi, hillary's emails, steel dossier, just never goes away. they are impervious to actual evidence or fact. >> i'll say something that's not very popular but i think bringing up hillary's emails brings up the very weaknesses that the democrats had in the last presidential election and as to why we are here today with the president that we have today. so, i ...

Vision of the world as a reality tv show. i don't think it's more complicated than that. >> it's not. his obsession with hillary's emails -- my god i thought they were important but there's no need to lie about the facts but the president steels like setting this political trap. do you see it as one? >> you know, he's been trying to set this trap for two years. he keeps coming back to it regardless of evidence. sort of like benghazi. you had report after report from congressional committees saying that the argument that there was willful effort to prevent rescue of people incorporate benghazi ...

2016 election stem from his sense of himself as this upright nonpartisan you know, defiantly kind of sen trust person. i think he was overly affected by either noise on the right, you know, noise from kind of pro-trump people in the new york fbi office or fear that if the hillary clinton investigation or the reopening of the hillary clinton investigation came out after the election that the right was going to go nuts and there would be endsless hearings like benghazi. to me, his greatest fault is that he was so susceptible to sort of right wing mowmowing. there is no equivalent force on the le...

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President obama. "the new york times" today sticking the his travel planes. at risk of looking bad, obama maintains schedule despite world crisis. this is the optics of the president doing fund-raisers, like benghazi, like texas -- >> that criticism that we played at the top, you see a lot of that from conservatives. the president is playing golf, going to fund-raisers shooting pool. the same thing was said about george w. bush spending too much time at his crawford ranch. do you think the media are too obsessed with the optics? >> in fact, that came up for me this week here at fox. i said, yo...