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Anything? no, i don't. unless the republicans are willing to make this a campaign issue, whether it's benghazi, fast and furious, this irs scandal, it's going to go nowhere with the mainstream media like greg said. that's the problem. there won't be the coverage. most certainly, eric holder is not going to proceed forward. >> eric, let me ask you, six months ago or maybe even a year ago, within the first six months of the scandal, president obama initially said he was outraged. he wanted to find out what had happened, but then i don't know what happened this convinced him that there's not a sm...

Information. >> referring it to the headquarters of the current coverup which is holder's justice department. we've had three major scandals in the last 40 years, watergate, iran contra, and this one. the first two were investigated vigorously by the press and select committees of congress. that's not what happened with this one. >> greg, let's start with you, there's a committee action and all the things that are happening there, kind of like benghazi, everybody knows what's heap, it's just an inconvenient truth for them to actually come forward and let her testify. >> my favorite part of thi...

Work this story? >> they wouldn't sleep at night. >> why are you suggesting they aren't working the story? >> we're the only ones that are doing it, bob. >> they don't think it's a big deal. >> there's nothing there. >> how do you know that? >> why did lois lerner come up with this idea to go after the right? >> if i were sitting in that seat and i had a shot at it, i would too. >> the irs cannot target somebody for political views. when this first happened, you said for weeks that this was the biggest problem -- bigger than benghazi, so what is it that convinced you that they have nothing? ho...

They can overplay this. and you're already starting to hear them hammer this point a lot. harry reid goes to the floor of the senate almost every single day and brings up the koch brothers. and yes, it raises money for them. democrats will tell you, they get back a lot more money than if they don't mention the kochs at all, but in the same way pruchbs hammer issues like benghazi and the irs, people start to tune that out. it becomes kind of a base-only issue. and i think it has limited effectiveness after a while. >> except that this is going to be a base election. and i'm telling you, look at...

I don't think she knew she was a seven. she knew the hatred from the clintons still exists. so i think she tried to get out early and say, hey, i am supporting you guys. >> it's interesting when eg we talk about, you talking about this book in terms of the rebirth but also state secrets. in other words the job of secretary of state is so crucial to a potential 2016 run. you write in the book about her approach to the job, and this will be instructive when you debate whether she's a hawk or a dove, but also, the issues like benghazi. here's what you write about a bias for action. hillary also h...