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Unclear. i don't think he knows that much. >> do you think house democrats are making a mistake by allowing hearings like hicks and sater to be closed-door hearings? >> i mean, it's sort of looking like it, you know? i love this term absolute immunity. it's a very trumpian feel. i have absolutely no idea what it means. i'm not a lawyer. apparently the lawyers don't know either. letting people come in there behind closed doors and tell you nothing, what's the point? it's like when someone wants to go off the record to give me talking points, it's pointless, you don't do it. >> everyone, thank y...

Administration, that's really unclear. i don't think he knows that much. >> do you think house democrats are making a mistake by allowing hearings like hicks and sater to be closed-door hearings? >> i mean, it's sort of looking like it, you know? i love this term absolute immunity. it's a very trumpian feel. i have no idea what it means. i'm not a lawyer. apparently the lawyers don't know either. letting people come in there behind closed doors and tell you nothing, what's the point? it's like when someone wants to go off the record to give me talking points, it's pointless, you don't do it. y...

Contradicted that. now, this is not a hanging offense. this is not a jailing offense. it's not a break-in. it's not a burglary. but there was a lot of human error. they decided in the middle of an election where the president proclaimed al qaeda is gone and we conquered all this, the war on terror is over, i'm a big hero, bin laden is slain, they would demote a hero like hicks, shout at him, threaten him, not allow him to meet with a congressional delegation. all of these things are part of a coverup. >>brian: can we get the guys that led the attack, planned the attack and were lethal with the...