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Are two basic reasons. for someone like sensenbrenner who's been around for a long time, he's safe in his district, probably best known for yelling at rookie reporters, that he doesn't do interviews in the speaker's lobby, the area right outside the house chamber, in that thick wisconsin accent that you mentioned would have fit in on one of the "saturday night live" -- >> i was just going to say my greatest regret is that chris farley didn't live long enough to play sensenbrenner in the movie. >> that is a great regret to have, brian. i would put it up there on mine as well. i'll steal it from...

Outside the house chamber, in that thick wisconsin accent that you mentioned would have fit in on one of the "saturday night live" -- >> i was just going to say my greatest regret is that chris farley didn't live long enough to play sensenbrenner in the movie. >> that is a great regret to have, brian. i would put it up there on mine as well. i'll steal it from you. one of the reasons is if you're a safe republican like sensenbrenner, you realize that the republicans are unlikely to win the house back. you're going to be in the minority again. and you're either going to be serving with a democr...

>> i was just going to say my greatest regret is that chris farley didn't live long enough to play sensenbrenner in the movie. >> that is a great regret to have, brian. i would put it up there on mine as well. i'll steal it from you. one of the reasons is if you're a safe republican like sensenbrenner, you realize that the republicans are unlikely to win the house back. you're going to be in the minority again. and you're either going to be serving with a democratic president or with trump again. and if you don't look at trump the way that mike pence looks at trump, that might not be a good ou...

With the laws as they exist today. i would agree with gene that the fisa court process, which gene actually we could have known about, it was out there, everybody understood i think that this existed, but the fact that there had been 30,000 requests to the fisa court over the last 30 years, and i think something like 11 were denied, does tell you that process is perhaps not as rigorous it needs to be. the president said we'll have a national conversation about it and we'll have one. but i think it is important to recognize the distinction between the bush program which did violate the law in p...