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She doesn't have her husband's joy of campaigning or interring with people. whether he loved it or not certainly seemed like he -- yes he did. when she starts doing a rope line -- >> doesn't include a rope line. one of the things she said i thought was really odd, i can even talk about kim kardashian with the voters. that actually doesn't make you seem more relatable because you probably have met them and most average americans have not met the kardashians. i don't, even in her sort of trying to kind of bring it back to the, i know what y'all are talking about moment, it is like, but yeah, we ...