Now, what does it mean for cohen? there's no -- there's no upside for cohen, given that he has already been sentenced. there is no upside for cohen, unless he can actually give them information that leads to the prosecution, right? that is -- he is now in like the 1-800-tips line part of his life. unless he gets someone convicted, he's going to be in jail. so the only thing worth for him to say something that he and is sdny could lead to prosecution of another individual. >> so, you know, i thought about this in light of the insurance part of that reporting, which was interesting, and i hadn't...