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>> that's been the mission since 2014. it was a counter terrorism operation. we have to cia listening posts, nobody on the ground gathering intelligence. >> that's part of the problem. >> and now we have blown our partnerships to feed us information. >> and blown up our relationship with britain, germany and france. >> these are the adult theres the room. these are the ones that get result around the world when joe biden came into office. oh, contraire. >> as we were told. >> there's political ramifications. the white house not ruling working out with the taliban despite reports that they're g...

>> that's been the mission since 2014. it was a counter terrorism operation. we have to cia listening posts, nobody on the ground gathering intelligence. >> that's part of the problem. >> and now we have blown our partnerships to feed us information. >> and blown up our relationship with britain, germany and france. >> these are the adult theres the room. these are the ones that get result around the world when joe biden came into office. oh, contraire. >> as we were told. >> there's political ramifications. the white house not ruling working out with the taliban despite reports that they're g...

20 years, even though the roles changed from fighting to advising, the fact is they wanted to stay. they saw this as a danger to their security by taking away the military bases and the c.i.a. listening posts. so we have weakened nato as a result of this. more so than putin has been able to do is my frustration. >> julie: reaction to your next story. audio of a phone call between president biden and afghan counterpart before the taliban seized control. the president is framing the issue as a matter of optics saying i need not tell you the perception around the world and parts of afghanistan i ...

Our concern is it can grow into that and if you take the listening posts away, if you take the presence that we had there than able to surveil and track them every day it will happen again. that's what the concern is. >> julie: it is going to happen again. the presence is not there. senator lindsey graham weighing in how he thinks the biden administration will work to get americans and allies out of afghanistan. administration refuses to call them stranded but i don't know how they get to a kabul airport after it is under attack and u.s. has fully withdrawn. how do you get them out? >> i think...

In the long war against jihadist terrorists, and of course the mantra we've heard is we need to end endless wars, but our enemies, really who are enemies of all humanity fighting an endless jihad. and what we have done is we have surrendered to a terrorist organization. victory for the taliban is a victory for al-qaeda, a victory for isis khorasan and a victory for all jihaddest terrorists. and what we're going to see is a threat that increases by orders of magnitude because we know, paul, these groups become much, much more dangerous when they control territory, populations and resources. pau...