To visit damien, there are days and stretches and, you know, that experience resonates and stays within you. and i think it's one of the reasons i've really tried to do everything i could for the case and stay close with lorri and dennis and everybody involved. because it really -- it's stuck with me. i think about it a lot. and especially sometimes when i'm in open spaces. he's on my shoulder. i'm thinking about him a lot. and what i can tell you, though, larry, is that his development within these incredibly small confines and an atmosphere of, you know, literal hell, he's grown as a person....