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>> he has never been the full loaf guy, but the half loaf. you are saying that -- >> half a loaf, less than one half of 1%. there is a stimulus bill on the record and health care bill on the record and auto rescue plan on the record and the question is now whether you sell it and believe in it and hide from it. do you believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of to stupid title stimulus and hide from the auto bailout, because it is a bailout when they should have called it a rescue, and they call it a stimulus bill instead of a jobs bill. nobody goes against a jobs bill. and the shopp...

>> yes, they will go after it anyway. >> and i think that is what -- >> but nia -- >> he has never been the full loaf guy, but the half loaf. you are saying that -- >> half a loaf, less than one half of 1%. there is a stimulus bill on the record and health care bill on the record and auto rescue plan on the record and the question is now whether you sell it and believe in it and hide from it. do you believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of to stupid title stimulus and hide from the auto bailout, because it is a bailout when they should have called it a rescue, and they call it a s...

Million, 10 million new jobs. >> i'm sorry, the economy is $15 trillion in this country. it suffered from a low growth rate this year of less than 2%. he thipnks he can goose that up with a jobs bill that's less than 40 million? if he got every nickel of this, he would be moving the economy by a little less than half a percent. why does he go for something so small bore that even if the republicans said, go, take it, it wouldn't make more sense. and they're not going to say take it, ever. >> i think the problem is if he goes big, he's going to be easily framed as a big spending liberal. >> he ...

The front page, 6 million, 10 million new jobs. that's one thing. stupid design thing. but seriously -- >> you know why, because you look at the math, and the economy is $15 trillion in this country. it suffered from a low growth rate this year of less than 2%. >> right. >> he thinks he can goose that up with a jobs bill that's $140 billion. that's less than like a half a percent of our economy. if he got every nickel of this, he'd be moving the economy by a little less than half a percent. why does he go for something so small bore that, even if the republicans said go and take it, it wouldn'...