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Romney, every contradiction he could go back to saying the states are laboratories, we were experimenting in massachusetts. this work for massachusetts, i'm he not saying i'm going to do it to anybody else. ryan has spent his whole career in congress. he spent his whole career writing letters to get stimulus money on one side and on the other talking about federal programs and what he wants to do with them. >> the -- >> i would say just to that point, i mean, you don't find a lot of passion for paul ryan amongst libertarians. very interesting thing too because right when you come out of the ga...

>> he has never been the full loaf guy, but the half loaf. you are saying that -- >> half a loaf, less than one half of 1%. there is a stimulus bill on the record and health care bill on the record and auto rescue plan on the record and the question is now whether you sell it and believe in it and hide from it. do you believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of to stupid title stimulus and hide from the auto bailout, because it is a bailout when they should have called it a rescue, and they call it a stimulus bill instead of a jobs bill. nobody goes against a jobs bill. and the shopp...

>> yes, they will go after it anyway. >> and i think that is what -- >> but nia -- >> he has never been the full loaf guy, but the half loaf. you are saying that -- >> half a loaf, less than one half of 1%. there is a stimulus bill on the record and health care bill on the record and auto rescue plan on the record and the question is now whether you sell it and believe in it and hide from it. do you believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of to stupid title stimulus and hide from the auto bailout, because it is a bailout when they should have called it a rescue, and they call it a s...

He's always been the half loaf. >> half a loaf? less than one half of 1%. here's my problem. there is a stimulus bill on the record. there is a health care bill on the record. there is an auto rescue plan on the record. the question now is whether you sell it and believe in it and move on or you hide from it. joan, do you really believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of the stupid title stimulus? do you think he can hide from an auto bailout because they're stupid enough to call it a bailout when they should have called it a rescue? they should have called the stimulus plan a jobs ...

Over to the tv screen and find out what else was happening. sean, that's an effective ad. >> the obama campaign comes out with an ad, brian from ohio. gets to 66% democrats. doesn't resonate at all with the republicans. one. lowest scoring ads overall as we run it. this is one of the two issues that biden said they are going to run on, bin laden and the auto bailout. here's brian from ohio with the campaign. >> the auto industry was crashing down. i was scared to death. i had a newborn baby, a wife, house, and i got laid off. i wasn't sure what i was going to do. >> under the president's auto ...