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Josh and i hear things -- when someone says something, we sort of have a sense of what's going on, so when they say they're going door to door, that is more likely than not that there was a lockdown procedure. they are now entering each classroom and then releasing the students in a sort of organized fashion. >> to that point and the challenge of it, let's bring in to join the conversation, analyst charles ramsay. he was the commissioner of police in philadelphia and the chief here in the district of columbia as well. chief ramsay, 1900 students, a 75-acre campus, 14,075 square feet of learnin...

For quick thinking. >> this is every educator in america's worst nightmare. the lockdown procedure was implemented flawlessly. >> crashed vehicle through locked gate before firing dozens of shots into classrooms. >> six-year-old alejandro hernandez was shot in the foot and chest. >> he's learning in first grade. why would someone go for the kids. >> neil's sister says he was unstable. >> it's scary and so sad too because you knew he couldn't control it. >> more than 100 officers responded to the shooting. neil was shot dead in a standoff on the side of the road. steve patterson, nbc news, ranc...

Including that elementary school that you mentioned. police there say it could have been a lot worse because of the administrators who locked in and created a lockdown procedure as soon as they heard what was going on. they believed that may have saved the lives of dozens of children in that school. i want to play some sound for you about that right now. >> the quick action of those school officials, there is no doubt in my mind based on the video that i saw saved countless lives and children. >> reporter: so four killed, ten others injured, including two school-age children. i spoke to the fa...

Or just -- cafeteria, library, we're getting conflicting reports, as shepard pointed out. we know a year later, this the sandy hook shooting, he came in guns ablazing ablazing and stors way into a school with a lockdown procedure. what do you do in these events in you can't prepare for someone who is going to come in ready and loaded for bear. what is the procedure for these schools? >> well, the facts that we know right now -- i'm not certain if they're individually corroborated, but it seems to me this shooter was look -- looking for an individual teacher. he requested by name an individual ...

This outcome and i want to just quickly go over those. one, based on the evidence we obtained it appeared that the suspect's rifle did jam while he was attacking individuals in the food court. however he was able to get the gun working again. clackamas town center had a lockdown procedure for this type of incident and they did a great job implementing that program. three, a large number of police officers arrived on the scene very rapidly curtailing suspect's ability to move around the mall. and fourth, 10,000 people in the mall, at one time kept a level head. they got themselves out of the ma...