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Room assistant as well. he knew exactly what was going on there. the evidence to me is overwhelming in this case. i do disagree with what the attorney just said a moment ago. i think there will be appreciable punishment against tom brady. >> even looking at the language of this report by ted wells? >> yeah. >> i'm saying they're equivocating here. what do you say, joe? >> well just to take what spencer was saying, i think that the league has forced themselves into a box where they have to take some kind of action. rich mckay didn't know anything about the noise pumped into the atlantic falcon ...

Unlikely the equipment assistant would do it without his knowledge. >> could with 51% or 99%. we're sure he was engaged with some general knowledge of what is taking place. joe will attest to the fact any quarterback knows the relationship between a center and a locker room assistant. he knew what is going on there. you can see it. evidence to me is overwhelming in this case. i do disagree with what the attorney just said i think there is going to be a appreciable punishment by tom brady. >> i look at the report and say they're equivocating here.