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Room assistant as well. he knew exactly what was going on there. the evidence to me is overwhelming in this case. i do disagree with what the attorney just said a moment ago. i think there will be appreciable punishment against tom brady. >> even looking at the language of this report by ted wells? >> yeah. >> i'm saying they're equivocating here. what do you say, joe? >> well just to take what spencer was saying, i think that the league has forced themselves into a box where they have to take some kind of action. rich mckay didn't know anything about the noise pumped into the atlantic falcon ...

But nbc has to consider now in the opening game it's off the boards in vegas. you've got new england and pittsburgh monday night. what is nbc going to do without tom brady? >> they're going to be crying in their soup. >> they've got to figure out something to be able to make it -- have enough teeth in it so it is discouraging. yet they can't look like it's too light. because it's new england patriots four-time world champions. tom brady. i do agree with spencer in this there's only one way this will come to a conclusion in a heart beat and that's if tom makes some statements. we have to take h...