And there was not a pressure for anything. he didn't tell me, oh, do this. he would ask me, oh, can you help me do this? i would gladly do it if i had the time. he knew that. >> reporter: by the way, jose in that interview barely escaped that fire. he was locked in his loft space in that first floor. had to kick the door open in order to escape, guiding somebody out. doesn't know if the person he was helping guide out even made it out of the fire. he calls almeda not just a manager but a friend. now you hear both sides of the story as investigators do their work to determine whether or not the...