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>> the same day the president did. >> from institution reporters? >> correct. > >> reporter: carney sounded defensive and perhaps dismissive. we could go down the list and say what about the president's birth certificate, was that legitimate? >> they revealed that white house aides spoke to treasury officials about how to reveal them baring report from the irs. carney said at one time they spoke about maybe a speech from lois lerner at the ierts, bu ire insisted they knew nothing about the planted question that let the cat out of the bag. >> this has evolved a couple of times out of the white ...

>> >> as i said yesterday and as han reported today, there were discussions between the treasury, chief of staff's office and office of general counsel and the white house counsel's office and chief of staff's office about the information release and the findings themselves. those are three different answers to roughly the same question, the evolving time line of who knew what when inside the white house. we're back with the panel. this is one element to the story and jay carney saying today that, in fact, treasury and white house officials were talking together about when the release would ha...

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Guilt from miller. >> i want to apologize on the behalf of the irs for the mistakes we made and the poor service we provided. the affected organizations and the american public deserve better. >> reporter: then there was the issue of how this came to light. lois lerner who heads iergs oversight of tax-exempt organizations answered planted question. >> we tried to get the story out. the report was coming. we knew that. >> reporter: treasury secretary jack lew was asked about the planted question. >> i wasn't asked about this. i would have advised against doing that. >> reporter: lew said there ...