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So he has been terminated by the police department. he has been terminated by the navy. and now he is out perhaps as the ultimate terminator, taking human lives. >> your thoughts on the probability of catching him in the near future. >> well, ed, last night when he -- when we found the truck that had been torched, realize this is a smart, educated guy. he goes down to san diego, allegedly to steal a boat. indicates that he wants to go to mexico. ed, he drops his wallet with his badge in it. come on, this guy is smarter than that. he left it so we would find it. he goes up to big bear, drops hi...

He -- when we found the truck that had been torched, realize this is a smart, educated guy. he goes down to san diego, allegedly to steal a boat. indicates that he wants to go to mexico. ed, he drops his wallet with his badge in it. come on, this guy is smarter than that. he left it so we would find it. he goes up to big bear, drops his car off and sets it on fire, almost putting spotlights on saying now i'm up here. this guy is trying to make us look left, make us look right. ed, if he would have been up in big bear mountain last night, it got to 15 to 20 degrees. if this guy was carrying gun...

Actually go beyond last night's seating chart? joining us right now, bringing up a sore point, is utah congressman jason chavitz. welcome back to the show. >> hey, thanks, good morning. >> i'll tell you, my heart went out to you. i'm following your tweets and i know, congressman, that you were looking for a date and you thought you had one a few times. you thought you'd be stuck next to congressman weiner but it didn't happen. >> i was so scared to death that i was going to have to sit next to representative weiner and thank goodness that didn't happen. i mean this, the morning. i know people ...

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