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Arthel: first if i could get your reaction to these indictments, what do they mean? what should be done now? >> they are extraordinarily important. they came from a grand jury in washington, d.c. obviously the mueller investigation provided the information. and it clearly labels the highest elements of the russian military intelligence, the gru with hacking into, stealing, breaking american law and then disseminating that information to affect the 2016 election. it is extremely serious. arthel: what should be done? >> the president, the president has the obligation to protect america. basic to...

This. look putin, he's got a shut out right now. >> i was saying earlier, looking like a perfect game. >> earlier somebody said he was rubbing it in the president's face, like he was doing doughnuts in the president's front yard. this op-ed. >> let's go there. >> he's enjoying himself. >> he wrote an op-ed in the "new york times." he does a lot of different things but questions america's role as a superpower, writing in part quote this. it is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the united states. is it in america's long term...