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Looks different -- >> you look like ryan lizzy, he says, is it youth? no. lefty credentials? maybe. >> one thing you would put on that list, does he want to run? we know joe biden wants to run. and that means although those calculations may not be -- >> i think susan makes a very good point. this is true about trump and biden. we are trying to be logical about all of this. this is emotional. voting is emotional and campaigns are emotional. that makes this all very, very different. >> which is why we all love topics. that's a passion and he's to it that helps create an illogical way. my sitdo...