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Political fiction writer could come up with. hillary clinton didn't plan all of that, she just got lucky and that's the kind of luck that wins the white house. joining us now, josh barrow, "new york times" reporter and msnbc contributor, also with us governor howard dean, former chairman of the democratic national committee and msnbc political analyst and maria teresa comar. howard dean, as a former presidential candidate and candidate for governor in vermont you know luck matters and luck lives in campaigns and it -- there's good luck and bad luck when you look at luck that has lined up for...

Time it looked like he might not do better than four. he managed to get all the more conservative rivals ganging up on one another. and he ask positioning to come out of this with ron paul as the big story. when everyone knows that ron paul can't be the nominee. i think romney has weathered through his active -- whether through his active intent or just luck he is positioning himself very well. >> jim: was it luck, fred? or a plan, you think? >> i don't think it's luck. although, in politics, like baseball, luck matters. i think romney was, he was close to saying something that i think is true...

Time it looked like he might not do better than four. he managed to get all the more conservative rivals ganging up on one another. and he ask positioning to come out of this with ron paul as the big story. when everyone knows that ron paul can't be the nominee. i think romney has weathered through his active -- whether through his active intent or just luck he is positioning himself very well. >> jim: was it luck, fred? or a plan, you think? >> i don't think it's luck. although, in politics, like baseball, luck matters. i think romney was, he was close to saying something that i think is true...