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Problem, a civil liberties problem? >> well, i think that the -- on the militarization piece, that he down played the number of military-grade weapons that are going to police departments as only 4%. but people don't understand, that translates to thousands and hundreds of tanks, of humvees, of m-14s and m-15s, and there's no accountability once these police departments get these materials. so we need to drill down a little more on this, and we are hopeful that the president will entertain some of our concerns. and i asked him a question about this. the congress is currently trying to up the a...

Of m-14s and m-15s, and there's no accountability once these police departments get these materials. so we need to drill down a little more on this, and we are hopeful that the president will entertain some of our concerns. and i asked him a question about this. the congress is currently trying to up the amount of military equipment that goes to local law enforcement. and he's trying to reduce it. but he's not -- i don't know that he's using all of his power. because he has the power of the purse. and there should be restrictions attached to money and objects sent to local law enforcement. >> ...