Don't want to put anything out there that you haven't been able to verify. and so, right now, whoever the spokesperson is going to be, which i imagine is going to be the chief of allen, he's getting all this information in, and his pio is trying to put it all together for him, so that when he gets in front of those microphones, he can make a c clear, concise statement and then decide how many questions he's going to take from reporters. >> and one of the officials said at the previous briefing about an hour ago that there were, quote, no firm numbers. i believe he was referring to fatalities. ...