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dialogue between sweden and turkey over turkish concerns and making sure the concerns were appropriately addressed and we believe and have believed por quite some time that sweden had met all their commitments they put forward on the margins of the madrid summit a year ago. >> before i let you go, on the issue of cluster munitions you have been clear about your perspective and i think some of the pushback you have received and you have addressed that as well. my question, there is two rationales. one is the fight that the ukraine are now in where russians are very dug in across the front lines, these would be a helpful defense capability to have. the other is purely running out of defense industrial issues that the u.s. and its allies are having. which is it? i heard both as the explanation. which is it? >> it is actually both. the prime driver right now is the inventory issue. the ukrainians are literally in a gun fight.

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